Tuesday, June 16, 2015

A Response to a Man I Really Admire: Predestination and the Golden Chain

So, my pastor recently did a supplementary teaching on Romans 8:29, the golden chain of redemption. He argued that when the text speaks of God "foreknowing" people, it only means that God knew beforehand who would have faith and who wouldn't. On that basis, God predestines those who He knows would have faith to eternal life-and thus, predestination isn't based off God's sovereign pleasure, but rather our free will response. According to this interpretation, God's sovereign pleasure IS the salvation of everyone; however, given our free will, we reject God's grace and embrace hell. My pastor is uber respectful, and again, someone I really admire. His presentation is a model of how Christians can disagree with charity. That being said, I must respectfully disagree. 

Reformed view of Predestination 
First, I have to define what people in my camp mean when they speak of predestination. We believe that all of humanity is totally depraved, and thus totally worthy of damnation. There would be no injustice on God's part to damn humanity to hell. The Apostle Paul has this to say: [7] For the mind that is set on the flesh does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. [8] Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
[9] You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. [10] But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. [11] If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you. (Romans 8:7-11 ESV)

Romans 1, additionally, speaks of how all people universally rebel against God. Note the contrast between verses 8 and 9; the only people who are not in the flesh are those in the Spirit, and thus, those who belong to Christ (verse 9b). Those who do not have the Spirit of Christ do not belong to God; thus, the implication is that those who do belong to God. In light of the universal rebellion of mankind, God stands over us in judgment. Christ saves us from the holy and just wrath of God (Romans 5:9). So with all of this in mind, what is predestination on the Calvinist view? 

Predestination is the decree of God, made from eternity past, to save a particular people (i.e the elect) and to pass over others and leave them under His judgment, not according to anything good or bad He sees in them, but according to His Sovereign pleasure and hidden purposes alone. It means that God, from eternity, decreed some to eternal life, and some to eternal damnation, not on the basis of anything He saw in them, but according to His will alone. 

Now two preliminary objections will inevitably arise. Doesn't this make God unfair? No, because as we've considered, everyone is worthy of hell. Salvation is of grace alone (God's unmerited favor); hence, God couldn't possibly be unjust for not saving people who deserved His wrath anyway. This, however, doesn't mean the reprobate (those who are destined for hell) are reprobate because they were worse than the elect; I deserve hell infinitely so. God's decree to damn them wasn't based off of anything good or bad He saw in anyone; however, it's rendered just in light of the fact that everyone deserves hell. In other words, God didn't pass over the reprobate because they were worse than me, and they didn't have the character or whatever to believe. He passed over them for reasons I do not have access to, and He saved me for reasons I do not have access to. All I know is that He saved me by utter grace-it had nothing to do with anything good or bad God saw in me, which strips me of any ground for boasting. 

The second objection is this: doesn't this make salvation a coin toss? As my former pastor said, doesn't this mean that God just kinda sorts souls on a shelf, and ships the bad shelf off to hell and the good shelf on to heaven ("I hope I'm not on the bad shelf"!-he continued). No. God is not arbitrary; that God hasn't revealed His reasons to me (and that those reasons aren't based in anything God saw in me) does not at all entail that He doesn't have good reasons, or any reason at all. "The secret things belong to the Lord our God." 

Now to the actual text. 


[28] And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. [29] For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. [30] And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. (Romans 8:28-30 ESV)

The first thing to note is that verses 28 and 29 are connected by "for". In other words, verse 29 is the explanatory basis for verse 28 ("My face is in pain, for my pet monkey punched me in the face"). So what's the link? Well, Paul's trying to ballast the claim that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him. How? Because those who God foreknew (we'll return to that word in a second), He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, in order that he might be the firstborn of many brothers. And then the chain comes in at verse 30. Now, notice something about verse 30; those predestined are called, those called are justified, and those justified are glorified. There's no break in this chain here; the group that's predestined makes it through to glorification. Verse 30 is connected to verse 29 by the "and", which means that it too is part of the explanatory basis for verse 28. So how does verses 29-30 give support to verse 28? We know that God works all things together for good (i.e in this context, in order to conform us to Jesus in our eschatological-i.e end time, when God redeems creation and resurrects us and gives us new, redeemed bodies-glorification), because everyone in Christ is in Christ to the end. Hence, everything in our lives is ultimately being directed to conform us to the end of being like Christ in the eschatological resurrection of the elect.

So then, in order to understand which view of predestination is right, we have to understand what is meant by the word "foreknow". In the OT, whenever it speaks of God "knowing" a nation, it does not mean that God had foreknowledge. That was assumed on the part of the Israelites. Consider this:

[1] Hear this word that the LORD has spoken against you, O people of Israel, against the whole family that I brought up out of the land of Egypt:
[2] “You only have I known of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. (Amos 3:1-2 ESV)

[5] “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” (Jeremiah 1:5 ESV)

Also consider the texts that speak of Adam "knowing" His wife. The knowledge here is covenantal. It is an active verb-something God is doing rather than something God has had. In these above examples, it clearly doesn't mean that God had knowledge beforehand of Israel or Jeremiah. Surely, God did (Isaiah 40-55), but that's not the point here. Think about Amos 3:2-God's not saying that Israel was the only nation He had knowledge of. He's speaking about a special choice; Israel was the only nation God specially chose to enter into covenant with. It refers to God's choice with respect to His covenantal (i.e redemptive) purposes-His purposes to make a people for Himself. Likewise, in Jeremiah 1:5, it speaks of God appointing Jeremiah a prophet to the nations before he was born. The knowledge there is again covenantal. It refers to a special choice God makes. When God "foreknows" something as an active verb, it's not talking about passive foreknowledge. The authors are referring to God's special choice-His choice to know the object in a special way. 

Now to be sure,  proginōskō can refer to passive foreknowledge of a thing...but the trouble is it's being used as an active verb here. Let's look at the one other place Paul uses the word (it happens to be used as an active verb here too): " [2] God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel? [3] “Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have demolished your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life.” [4] But what is God's reply to him? “I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” [5] So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. [6] But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace."
(Romans 11:2-6 ESV)

In verse 2, it wouldn't make sense to say "God has not rejected his people who he had passive foreknowledge of". The fact that God has passive foreknowledge of Israel has nothing to do with whether God will reject them or not; God had passive foreknowledge of the Assyrians too, but that didn't stop them from devolving into pagan idolatry. In keeping with the OT usage of "know" as an active verb, it makes much more sense to say that God has not rejected the Jewish people that He chose. Why? Because He cannot go back on His promises; those whom he sovereignly chooses to conform to Christ, He will not let go. In fact, this makes perfect sense with the logic of the text. Verses 3-6 denote how God's reply to Elijah was His sovereign preservation of seven thousand who did not bow the knee to Baal. Paul connects that to the present in verse 5-the evidence that God has not backed down on His promises to the Jews is the fact that there's a remnant chosen by grace. This also makes sense with the rest of what Romans 11 has to say, since the text speaks of a time when God will reign back in the ethnically Jewish people en masse. Why? Because He has not rejected His people who He foreknew...i.e those whom He chose to know in a specially way. 

The Logic of the Golden Chain
Now let's turn our attention to the golden chain. Since this is something God is doing, not merely something God has, and since the usage of "foreknowledge" as an active verb normally denotes God's sovereign choice, we must infer that Paul is speaking of God's sovereign choosing of the elect. Once again, this makes perfect sense of the text. How do we know God works all things together for the good of those who love Him? Because (i.e verse 29: "For") those whom God sovereignly chose (i.e predestined), He predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son. In other words, every bad thing that happens to me is ultimately being worked by God for my good (my ultimate good being conformity to Christ). Since God has sovereignly chosen me, and since His choice entails my final glorification (verse 30-all those called end up glorified), that means that nothing can separate me from the love of Christ. 

Now, consider with me how the logic would be broken if the text was just speaking about God's passive foreknowledge. If salvation was ultimately contingent on my free choice-if the ultimate, decisive factor in my own salvation was a movement of my will-then how do I have any guarantee that I'll be a Christian until the end of my life? There may be something that comes along and sways my will. Paul's logic wouldn't work; if God just predestines those who He foreknows will have faith to be conformed to the Son, then how do I know God is working everything (note: everything-even my own sinfulness, though this is not a license to sin because of Romans 6) for my good? It wouldn't be true that God was working all things for my good, since He wouldn't be working my free will decision to perhaps break in covenant with Him for my good. Also, the logic of the chain wouldn't work; some of those predestined to be conformed to the image of the Son could use their free will to break away from Christ. 

However, if we consider "foreknowing" something as an active verb in the Jewish context of the OT, Paul's argument becomes solid (and this is the most likely reading especially in light of the fact that Paul was a first century Jewish Pharisee). Now, a lot of people confuse this position with "once saved always saved"-by that pithy little phrase, people tend to mean that if you're elect, then you can live like the devil, curse Christ, and still be saved. That's not what election is. Election is the decree of God to save someone from eternity past; He then, in time, regenerates a person's heart and creates faith in them, so that they are justified (i.e counted righteous) in His sight. So if one professes faith in Christ, but the fruit of loving obedience is not evident in their lives, then their profession of faith is false. That doesn't mean we'll be perfect; we stumble and fall. But the evidence of being saved is getting back up, hating sin, and running towards the light. As someone once said to me, "grace is there not so that we can fall, but in case we fall, and to make it so that we fall less and look more like Jesus over time". Thus, perseverance is necessary. So as a Calvinist, how do I know I will fight the fight of faith, and be a Christian by the end of my life? I'm 18 right now...I (Lord-willing) have a long way to go (unless He comes back first). But I believe that my God is exceedingly faithful to a former wretch like me. My newness comes from Christ alone; and my confidence comes from God's love displayed in Christ alone. Hence, I know I'll be a Christian not because of anything in me. If it were up to me, I'd have descended into dark depravity. No, I know I'll be a Christian because of the faithfulness of God. It has nothing to do with me; it has everything to do with a great, merciful King. Since God is faithful, nothing can separate me from the love of Christ. Nothing. 

9 comments:

  1. You need to familiarize yourself with the corporate election perspective. Paul is speaking of God's former acknowledgement of His covenant people here. That is why he uses the plural throughout. God's people will surely reach their destination, but individuals will only share in that destiny if they remain in that corporate body through faith.

    Election is primarily corporate and only secondarily individual (i.e., the individual becomes a part of God's covenant people through faith). Through faith we are joined to Christ (the corporate Head of the new covenant) and become a part of His body. We are chosen "in Him", not "to be put into Him." There is no election outside of Christ.

    We see this vividly expressed in the illustration of the olive tree in Rom. 11. The olive tree represents God's covenant people. We come to be a part of His people through faith and can be broken off through unbelief. All the promises are for God's covenant people in Christ, but we can only participate in those promises (and become a part of God's people) through faith. And if we do not continue in the faith, we will be broken off (Rom. 11:20-22, cf. John 15:4-6).

    The promise of not being separated from the love of Christ is only for those who remain in Him. No one can forcefully remove us from Christ and His love, but we can choose not to remain. That is why we are admonished to remain in His love (John 15:9; Jude 21).

    The "golden chain" does not support Calvinism or eternal security. For more on corporate election, see here: https://arminianperspectives.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/corporate-election-resources/

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    1. Oh I'm aware of that-that's why I plan on exegeting Romans 9 pretty soon. Though as a preliminary comment, I'd say that corporate election doesn't make sense of the golden chain; it's talking about individuals. Now, regarding Romans 11:20-22, the question is whether the people who are "in" are in in a superficial way. http://www.desiringgod.org/sermons/you-stand-fast-through-faith-so-do-not-become-proud-but-fear

      The golden chain cannot be referring to corporate election since justification is something that happens to individuals, not corporate bodies.

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    2. Now, of course, you may point out that corporate election doesn't exclude individual election. But my point is that in the golden chain, individuals have to be the emphasis, since justification is a legal concept that takes place between the individual and God, the Judge.

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    3. Yes, you are right that I would point out that corporate election does not discount individuals. The benefits of being God's chosen people flow to the individual as a member of that community through faith. There is nothing strange in saying "they" are "justified" as a group. The fact that justification is applied individually does not mean the individual is the emphasis. The individual is justified through membership in God's chosen people and through union/identification with the corporate Head (Christ). Through faith we become a part of Christ's corporate body and all the benefits of that union becomes ours as a result (including justification).

      Here is Biblical scholar B.J. Oropeza on that point:

      "Paul stresses the use of the plural and collective terms such as “those,” “many,” and so forth to refer to the Christians in 8:28-39 . . . . Paul in 8:28-39 may indeed affirm that the collective community of God is foreknown, predestined and elect in the eternal plan of God and will persevere to final glorification. This would be a great comfort to Paul’s readers when he mentions the various trials that the Christians in Rome may face. The readers, as individuals, could take comfort in the promises of this passage, but only as they are identified as members of the Christian community. The passage centers on the Christian community as elect, not the Christian individual. A person who is not part of this community has no claim to its promises."

      http://evangelicalarminians.org/Perseverance-Oropeza-on-Romans-8.28-39

      Your comment on Romans 11 doesn't make sense. Paul is clear that his Gentile readers are "in" because they "stand by faith." That is the only way to be in the olive tree (because the tree represents God' chosen covenant people). Yet he warns them that they can be broken off through unbelief just as many unbelieving Jews were broken off. To suggest that Paul only has a superficial union in view is extremely strained and contrary to Paul's' specific language regarding how one is "in" and how one is "out." If we can be "in" with false faith, then there is no reason to warn about being broken off through unbelief. False faith is unbelief, is it not? And if we are only "superficially" in, then what sense does it make to warn about being broken off from something that was superficial anyway?

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    4. It is strange to say that a corporate body is justified because justification is inherently an individualistic concept. Every single time it's used, it's always used to denote the vindication of an individual. So emphasis is on individuals that comprise a people, not a people comprised of individuals. The fact that Paul says "those whom he justified He glorified" no more implies a corporate concept than if I were to say "those who are found not-guilty will be innocent"-that doesn't mean the verdict is a corporate concept. In fact, the verdict is still individualistic. So rather, I affirm that a community is in view-but it's a community constituted by God's elect individuals, who collectively persevere.

      Good point-though there is another way Calvinists have historically taken that text. The warnings are the means by which Paul (and God through Paul) preserves the elect. That is, the warnings themselves are the means used by God to produce fear and trembling in His elect people. Paul knows that his warnings will stir the elect to take the Lord seriously and cling to Him-so they become the means by which God preserves them. I find that more convincing personally. This is plausible in light of whether my view of Romans 8 is correct.

      Now the obvious objection is "why did Paul give the warning if he thought the elect were in? And could the elect have fallen away"? If we're talking about modal possibility (in a world where Paul didn't give the warning, would they have fallen away?) then yeah...but in such a world where God didn't ordain warnings for His elect, that would be evidence that He didn't ordain their election in the first place. In other words, there's no real "if Paul didn't give the warning"-God moved him to do so so as to preserve the elect through Paul. Because the elect are ordained to eternal life, God has ordained all necessary warnings. The thought then would be similar to the thought Paul expresses at the end of 1 Corinthians, where he exhorts the Corinthians to test themselves, fully expecting that they'll pass the test. Nevertheless the test is the means by which the elect cling even tighter to Christ. So Paul gave the warning because he knew it would stir the elect to stand fast, and those who aren't elect wouldn't heed the warning. (And anyone who thinks "ah I'm elect so I don't need to pursue holiness" doesn't get election, predestination, or union with Christ, and is probably not saved)

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  2. For more on Rom. 8:35-39, see here: https://arminianperspectives.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/does-paul-teach-unconditional-eternal-security-in-romans-835-39/

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  3. Thank you for your respectful tone.

    Since tthishas been an issue of debate for hundreds of years, and everyone wants to analyze the Greek and parse the stylistic emphasis of Paul, for many years I felt it was a matter that one could not be objectively certain of. The Corporate election view, the Unconditional Election view, and the Simple Foreknowledge view all have things going for them. For instance, Jesus died for even the false teachers who deny Him. He is the Savior of all men, but especially of those who believe. Or... and that's where people come in and argue that 'your verse doesn't really mean that,' etc.

    When I stumbled across the early church writings, I was stunned. They address these matters over and over, from a very early time. I had always imagined them running from Romans and having poorly developed doctrine, or being a bunch of Roman Catholics, or something. I guess I hadn't really thought about it much at all.

    Here's where this particularly intersects with your points on foreknowledge. Origen agrees that the word 'foreknew' here is speaking of covenantal love - for after all, God foreknows everything and everyone, but this verse is speaking of something special. Origen argues that this foreknown special covenantal realationship is with those who will be in Christ. That is, believers. He maintains the relational give-and-take between God and man is still utterly intact, and that man is free to choose to yield to God's grace or reject it. Those who yield to it and come under God's grace are those who God foreknows He will have that loving covenantal relationship.

    Origen can be a little weird at times, but John Chrysostom is utterly solid. And he takes a very similar view in his verse by verse commentary through Romans: that is, one rejecting unconditional election. I'd encourage you to do a search for the early Christian views in Romans 9.

    (Oh, but be careful with the internet.... There is a set of quotes going around that are eveb included in one of Michael Horton's books that make it sound like the early Christians are 5-pointers. The list, sadly, is largely an outright fabrication or so egragiously out of context it should make the authors blush with shame.)

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    1. I will take a look. Thanks for the input :)

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  4. MrManwookie,

    With regards to your claims above about the individual needing to be the emphasis in passages like Rom. 8:28-39, I think you will find this response to Daniel Wallace by Brian Abasciano instructive:

    http://evangelicalarminians.org/glynn.Dr.Brian-Abasciano-Responds-To-Dr.Dan-Wallace-On-The-Issue-Of-Corporate-Election

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